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Second chakra?

Postby DEADLI. » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:53 am

Does anyone know which acupuncture cavity coresponds to the second chakra?

I'm pretty sure that the root chakra is located at point CV-1 (Huiyin). When i use a certain technique that is supposed to open/heal the second chakra, i get a strong sensation of qi moving between the kidneys at about the height of the mingmen DU-4 cavity.

Are the Chakras located along the spine, or the front of the body?

Thanx in advance
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Re: Second chakra?

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Postby joeblast » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:53 pm

Keep in mind that you're melding two different energetic views with this one.

Technically DU-4 is a little lower than the mingmen - but if you put this in a perspective of what Dr Yang teaches, really you're thinking the center, the huang ting; location of the 'real' lower dantien - that would most likely correlate closest. DU-4 and REN-4 connect to each other this way.
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Juncture of fixed tailbones with main part of spine.

Postby Virochana » Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:13 pm

The chakras are not in the physical body, nor in the immeadiate chi body - this becomes very evident when you really enter them. So using a point on the body to connect to a chakra might work for some and not for others depending on if the energetic connection of the touch is going to that realm, otherwise it is most likely connecting with a field of energy that has a loose relation to the chakra. The word 'charka' them becomes a matter of semantics where different people are using the same word but connecting to, or refeering to, different experiences.

With that said the juncture of the fixed bones of the tailbone (in the marrow) with the rest of the spine corresponds to the second chakra, which is approx opposite of the pubic bone. Some people meditate on it a bit higher, but my experience is that it is floating up from the chakra, rather than grounding into it.

Likewise the chakras of the shushumna are all in the spine, except of course for the head, of which there are many. Most of the major chakras are like a kingdom containing a number of chakras, and many of these associated chakras, some of which are quite important for certain esoteric practices, and not in the spine, but at this level you are not operating in the same spatial mechanics and seperations as everday reality.

They are two ways i know of to locate the point. One is from the center of your head feel an intuitive sense instantly looking down to the second chakra area of the spine, and if momentarily you experience a kind of center with a geomtry of thin light beams spreading out from a point, that is it. There is a space about it, so this is not going to show you the physical anantomy, rather the actual chakra center, and from there you can gradually learn to meditate on it. If you are trying to see it, like a visualization, you are trying too hard; it is not physical vision, but an intuitive and quick sense that is spot on.

The second method is when you get the chi to move into the inner aspect of the spine on the water path, there is an increase of sensation when it hits second chakra area that is unmistakeable, like the warm-cool current gets another elemental energy added to it.

Once you know it in yourself, then by reflection you can inwardly locate it in others.

When your are meditating on the chakras from the inside out, there is a quick and circulating 'touch' of each of the main chakras that you continue, so as not to bring the conceptual mind into play. Once the points are found and become inwardly radiant, then you can build the relationship into the energy body and from there into the physical body. If you are going from the outside in, then you can use points on the spine or on the front of the body, or a combination of points - the idea here is to create a field of energy that you stabalize and is not stagnate. Once the stability is gained, then you can refine the meditation moving further inward within that field without extinguishing it. In either of these approaches the mind does not wander, rather it becomes fixed through an inner support mechanism and that takes practice.

In regards to seperate systems, i.e., taoist, indian, etc., When you are begining it is best to use the understandings and wisdoms of the system you are using so as not to confuse yourself or scatter your concentration of the practice. This also helps strenghten your lineage to the practice which is very important and will help bring it to life. So for example, if you are starting out and your main practice is chi kung forms and meditations, then ignore most of the 'seems-like-indian' concept of chakras for the moment, but take a note for later.

Once you become comfortable with a practice, I believe it is very valuable to learn from other systems, but much of this will have to be found from within, as most of what is in print is simply hearsay.

You do not have a chinese energy body, an indian energy body, or an american energy body; rather you just have your energy body and if different systems cannot be reconciled then somewhere there is majurity to be gained. Along the way you might have to sort out relativistic truths that have limited (but perhaps important) scope in your greater spiritual endevour, but that is part of self discovery.
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