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The sounds of kung fu

Postby yat_chum » Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:50 am

I recently posted these two clips on the Shaolin forum
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PV-YL61NENc
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ0-78E5xxc

What struck me was the unusual sounds being produced by the practitioners. While contemplating these sounds I remembered some other clips I had seen.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yR70X6nv5ZI
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LpwE_PZw5x0

Coming from a Wing Chun Kuen background I am not used to using such sounds. The White Crane I was taught only had one sound which was just exhaling with power with a "Huah" sound. I have been wondering the usage of such sounds and how beneficial they are?
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Postby lilman » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:34 am

Well I cant comment on Wing Chun, White Crane or Shaolin, but in Taijiquan the sounds are Hen and Ha! They are beneficial in Taiji cuz they assist with compressing and expanding the Qi in your body and out to the opponent.

As far as external martial arts I assume its the same reason you sing cadence when you run in the Army... It assists your breathing. Try running a mile silently, then try running a mile just saying Hey! Hey! Hey! Ha! Everytime your right foot hits the ground... You'll feel the difference. Also the sound is meant to confuse and startle your opponent. Have you ever been sitting reading in deep thought and had someone honk a horn or shoot a gun outside and startle you? Same theory. A lot of people really concentrate when they fight, and sound can be a big enough distraction to get in a punch, kick, or technique with some opponents.
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Postby vamos » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:31 pm

sounds can help regulate any of your organs,increase POWER in punching.help recovery etc....have you heard of the six healing sounds?there are many others as well...
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Postby Josh Young » Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:19 pm

Watch animals fight on youtube, birds are good.
Herons, egrets and cranes all use sounds in concert with their attack/response motions.
Bears and big cats do, so do many snakes.

Each animal has their own fa-jin too.

Nature never needs to be told what to do.
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Postby internalfist » Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:41 pm

Josh Young pretty much sums it up.

Certain sounds can be used for many things. Like another mention, the six healing sounds. Sounds can be used to store qi, emit qi, strengthen organs, strength the qi through an attack, produce a calming effect etc etc.

Its interesting, the first video how the guys sounds kinda rattle, notice the display of fa jin makes his hands rattle. It might be nothing but I find that interesting.

And the way you can tell if some one has real good sounds in fighting is if they sound animalistic. I hate all the yelling that goes on in martial arts now, its actually more harmfull then not doing it at all. Its kinda a lost art form in itself, in some arts though not in all.

Thanks for the post I enjoyed the videos. :)
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Postby yat_chum » Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:09 am

I don't recall any crane players making this hissing sound before seeing this clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt-HRLxsKtY
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Re: The sounds of kung fu

Postby Hubert » Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:18 am

I was wondering if the sound effects in old kung fu movies were dubbed in
BEFORE any language dubbing? And I was also wondering if the English
dubbing was done in HK at the same facilities as the Cantonese or Mandarin
dubbings, or if they were done outside of HK.

The reason why I ask this is because I just watched 'Invincible Kung Fu
Trio' last night, and while I thought the fighting was ok, the sound effects
were so awful. I mean, it was bad enough that they played animal sounds
every time someone was about to use monkey style or crane style, but did
there also have to such sound effects as an elevator sound, or a train sound
when soldiers are running, or gun shot ricochet sounds when one of the
protagonists is using his disc weapons? I'm just wondering if the film's
sound was done purposely like some joke by the film editors or if it was
done later when the English dub was being recorded.
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