Sore Stomach Muscles

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Sore Stomach Muscles

Postby ziral » Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:17 am

I don't know how i did it, but my stomach muscles ache.
Moreso the ones below my navel rather than the muscles above it.

Any ideas on how to help them?
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Postby zipwolf » Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:28 am

Yeah, rest.. rest.. and more rest!

Stoumach muscles are some of the hardest to rest properly, because you use all your abdominals (external, internal etc.) CONSTANTLY. You will seriously need to rest like crazy, and DONT use painkillers, because then it will take longer to stop it because you wont know when the ache has naturally gone away. Its the same with most muscular aches really.

Another good thing is plenty of protein, and as you want your body to release it slowly over time, start your day with one with MILK! Water allows it to absorb very quickly, milk does it slower apparently. So yeah, protein with milk. Muscular aches and injuries always need some easily absorbed protein to get them to repair. Make sure you get some complex carbs too, otherwise that protein will be useless.

Also, if you do pushing hands, DONT until your abdominals are better. Even relaxed they will get put through a lot of exertion. I did pushing hands for several hours once, and ended up out of action for almost a week :P. But it was WORTH IT!

Also, use jow if you'd like, but you still need to be able to feel the pain naturally, so that you know when it has naturally gone. If you dont do that, then as you use the muscles because you cant FEEL the pain, you end up making it worse, and last longer.

Hope that helps!

Also, if its a serious stoumach pain that hasnt come from exercise, take yourself to a doctor. Its not worth getting a hernia!
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Postby yat_chum » Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:34 am

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Postby zipwolf » Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:05 pm

There are also a few recipes for jow and how to make it in the Chin Na book (the analysis one)

If you need the herbs, go to a local TCM shop and hand the prescription to the dude and say you need these herbs if they do them.
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Postby S Ashael » Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:40 pm

remember that jow is more than a painkiller. it actually helps the healing process by reducing swelling and breaking up bruises. it's really more useful for impacts than muscle over-exertion though.
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Postby zipwolf » Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:35 am

I can relate on the impacts, it certainly helped my leg when i crashed my bike (the bike was fine, my leg hit a wall... owch!)

But i was under the impression that general purpose jow, as it is used on muscular bruises (where the most painful strikes etc. will actually effect) would work on over-exertion as well, as the symptoms of over exertion are very similar to those of being so hard that the muscle itself bruises. Your muscles are damaged/torn/bruised after over exertion, and its the healing of them that makes them stronger through time. So surely the jow would have an effect?
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Postby Yatish Parmar » Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:39 am

Um..

Before you go wild with medicine...

In India and in Ayurved at least you very rarely put strong internally acting ointments and medicines over internal organs and never over your stomach area.
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Postby zipwolf » Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:31 pm

Hmm, thats a fair point, care to enlighten as to why this is? Damage to the intestines etc?

Also, Yatish, I will be seeing you tomorrow. I'm hoping i'm not expected to come wearing a full YMAA uniform or anything?

Should also be coming on Wednesday too, is thre any prerequisite on how long you have to go to come to Chin Na?

I wont be coming to Tai Chi simply because i already have a teacher in that, because of my teachers in Guernsey and my affiliation to their club.
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Postby scramasax57 » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:35 pm

i would not recommend using jow for simple overexertion. it doesn't have anything close to the potential damage of impact. for sore muscles, i generally just use heat and massage. jow simply isn't necessary, and i doubt it is advisable to use herbs for everything. it should be used to prevent more serious harm, like bruises getting lodged in joints or simply not dissipating, and not as a crutch for every pain you have.
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Postby ziral » Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:36 am

Cheers guys, it seems to have healed of it's own accord. I think it was just a case of over-exertion.

There's pushing yourself... and then there's too far. :roll:
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