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Qi Gong and Buddhism

Postby Sorcerer » Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:13 pm

What are some of the most well known buddhist Qi Gong forms?

And

How do the practitioners of those forms relate buddhism to the actual Qi Gong. I mean, are there sutras for the forms that help in practicing?
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Re: Qi Gong and Buddhism

Postby Dvivid » Thu May 01, 2014 9:33 am

Hi,

The best known Buddhist qigong is the three forms brought to China by Bodhidharma:

(18 Luohans) Shiba Luohan Shou  (十八羅漢手)

Yi Jin Jing (易筋经)

Xi Sui Jing (洗髓经)

After that, others developed:
12 Strengths (Da Mo fist form)
Da Jin Fa
Jin Gang Quan (Vajra Fist), which is the progenitor to Taijiquan.

The sutras only talk about sitting meditation, and Buddha discussed Qi as "winds" in the sutras. This physiological side of practice has been lost entirely in layman society, but is still practiced is intact authentic lineages, which is primarily Tibetan Buddhism.

In one sutra, Buddha teaches his son Rahula instructions on mindfulness of breathing in order to attain samadhi. The Buddha said that mindfulness of breathing, when "developed and repeatedly practiced is of…great benefit", and it can lead to "clear vision and deliverance."

He first instructs to sit in a secluded place with crossed legs and an erect spine. He then gives instruction through various stages including contemplation of the body, feeling, mind, and mental objects. Development of these "four foundations of mindfulness" in turn lead to perfection of the "Seven Factors of Enlightenment", which are Mindfulness, Investigation, Energy, Rapture, Tranquility, Concentration and Equanimity.
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Re: Qi Gong and Buddhism

Postby Know01 » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:21 pm

Hi Shifu

I have always been a very spiritual person and i am very interested in taking up qigong full time, so that one day i may become an instructor and healer.
I would just like to ask an expert in the matter, what steps i should take to go about doing this?

With thanks
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Re: Qi Gong and Buddhism

Postby joeblast » Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:24 pm

to empty one's mind, need to use intention to engage the breathing structures until you condition the nerves to shut up so that you can sit peacefully (=establish the habit energy.) until you get there...that is your intention to work with. a good solid emptiness is laying a good foundation for further cultivation. sure its possible to get there by *conceptually emptying one's mind* but in my experience what truly lies a foundation underneath it is first conquering anapanasati in a beginner's approach to meditation and energy practices (with an implied "learn and ingrain through practice to establish net positive mechanics onto the breathing structures." It will absolutely fuel the duration of your breaths once good habit energy and longevity is established, and you will get an experiential glimpse of what samhadi really is.) it sets a good safe return to ground default path back for energy to flow should you decide to utilize more 'powerful' practices.
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Re: Qi Gong and Buddhism

Postby Know01 » Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:53 pm

Thank you.
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Re: Qi Gong and Buddhism

Postby joeblast » Fri Jun 06, 2014 8:13 am

'welcome :) its quite the rabbit hole, good luck! 8)
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