Small Circulation

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Postby beggarsu » Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:49 am

Hello Invisible Soul,


I thought I would share my experience of Small Circulation. When I attained the Small Circulation, I felt that all of existence was a sun (not just the universe), and that I was the supply of the energy. I was like bleeding yellow light, but it was giving birth to all kinds of energy. I could hear all that was around me, up to mountains, and things in houses a city away. As this intensified I could hear entire realities as well.

Something very interesting about the Small Circulation is that when I obtained it, I also obtained the Big Circulation. I think now that many times in Qigong texts that actually the Big Circulation was being talked about, but just not mentioned by name at all, when talking about caused effects from Small Circulation. I felt that the energy up and down the center of the body was infinite and running into itself. As it ran into itself, it's own flow just made more and more energy, until it spilled out into the Big Circulation. The force literally felt infinite, and endless.

I obtained many psychic abilities since achieving the Small Circulation like being able to take objects from other dimensions, seeing the future, and making things I think happen.
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Postby Hephaestus » Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:39 pm

beggarsu wrote:Hello Invisible Soul,
I obtained many psychic abilities since achieving the Small Circulation like being able to take objects from other dimensions, seeing the future, and making things I think happen.


:shock:
Um . . . wow.
I don't know if anyone has a reply for that.
I sure don't.
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Postby Inga » Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:32 pm

blimey.
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Postby DOM » Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:19 am

your kidden right,if not it must be the effects of the LSD.
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Postby darth_freak » Thu Dec 01, 2005 2:05 pm

or else he should go to the mountain and become a bouddha. or meet Dr Yang to discuss that.
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Postby willm » Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:20 pm

What he's talking about is some sort of spiritual awakening.

I experienced the same thing 2 years ago after recorevering from a deep depression using mental reprogrammation and some of Dr. Yang techniques of energy enhancing, and let me tell you that this sequence of my life was very disturbing while extremely inspiring. I litterally felt like a god...

I was handling my physical and subtil bodys from another dimension in which my spirit was residing...That meen, no fear of nothing, an intense feeling of harmony and the greatest quality of that same feeling. I could have done everything...But the only thing that was important to me at that time and moment was to bring out heavenly light out of everything that surrounded me. I was awake...awake especially from suffer of any kind.

I lost that state of being after a while and I don't really know why, maybe because of my familly and friends or humanity... Anyway, eversince, i'm studying this world of "subtil energy" to try to create the right training that could bring any human in that state of being which I truly beleive is our key to general harmony and eternal life...I may be wrong, but I think that no one deserves to live in pain and fears, at least no one who doesn't want to. I also think that now is the time for human to know the thruth about life and that time is running out fast.

The real meaning of spiritual liberty is to have the choice between heaven or hell. I invite everyone like beggarsu to share there experience of enlightment using small circulation from Dr. Yang... :wink: so we can understand that secret science that is so "dangerous" from the saying of some...
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Postby Hephaestus » Sat Dec 03, 2005 2:48 pm

The forum troll is a creature not normally found on the YMAA boards. As many of us know, imitating it only increases its need to express territorial tendencies. Maybe we can scare it off with loud noises. :?
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Postby scramasax57 » Sat Dec 03, 2005 2:49 pm

um.


ok. not even going to touch this one. i'm just going to back away slowly.
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Postby Pooh_Tao » Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:04 pm

Well this is very difficult. My gut reaction would be skepticism... but what if these guys aren't exaggerating? Boy would I look silly.

So if they'd care to elaborate that would be interesting...
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Postby willm » Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:30 pm

My post is surely misinterpreted maybe because of my poor english but I shared my experience with good will and honnesty. I'm sorry that I wrote my opinion on the urge of spreading the thruth about the reality of life which I think provoked this rejecting reaction of my person. But time is an important factor since humanity is loosing its spiritual freedom at an incredible speed.

I really am looking forward in helping others elevating their spirit by creating a simple and efficiant training program from this secret physic paradigm that transcend everything we actually know from science.

I recently read the root of chinese qigong and yi jin jing training and I found out a lot of informations about necessary circumstances of living that corresponds exactly to what I created in my life at the time I succeeded in attaining a perfect masterising of my bodys and spirit.

The major favorable factors into the process of illuminating my soul were, getting in great physical shape, understanding every emotions and desires, avoiding sex, meditating a feeling of desire and visualising a light source into my solar plexus, cultivating a feeling of acceptance and altruist perception of myself and on everyone and everything that surrounded me.

Small circulation was the main factor into develloping psychic abilities like decorporation, telepathy, hypnosis, energy fields perception, healing abilities...I strongly think that everything is possible, like physicaly flying around or energy/matter crystalization.

My motivation to devellop a perfect training program resides in the new paradigm of physical and energy interaction emerging out slowly from natural and socialogical phenomenas. Scientificaly harnessing environnemental frequencies to manipulate weather and human mind is obviously done when observed by the sensible observer. Or in an other perspective this electromagnetic quanta science from the vacuum which was discovered and powerfully masterized using electricity since around 1900 by scientist Dr. Nikola Tesla and by hindoist, daoist and buddhist since thousands of years was ridiculised by other physicist personnalitys on the base that it wasn't mathematicaly proven and if enhanced with the good electrical pattern it could have been the end of energy and weather(rain) needs all over the Earth which means no more control from superior organisations.

If this science exists and it does, why isn't it be used to help the world situation especially in moral terms... I personnaly think that the path of humanity created by superior organisation is destructive and reductive for the collective mind and that it will certainly reach a very inconfortable level which only some masterizing of energy/matter will preserve somekind of wealthyness to human.

I strongly wish that some other people get interested in understandind this science and the way to train it fast and good for the common human cause a lot of suffer and pain will inevitably reach us all.

Doubtfull people could investigate science history back to 1850 and study this "secret" physic interpretation conceptualised and handled by dr. Tesla or else ask precise question instead of commenting my message with a judging attitude.

Qigong practitioners will be a great help for humanity in further times so people who already believes in the existence of qi are highly invited to profoundly and precisely understand the science of real energy and share it with others.

Sorry for the lenght but I had to illustrate my vision for some people..
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Postby willm » Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:50 pm

How about that for a forum troll creature...pretty freaky isn't it!! :twisted:
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Postby Pooh_Tao » Sun Dec 04, 2005 3:50 pm

(What exactly is meant by a forum troll?)

Well I can't fault your morality, it all seems noble. It's just the mystical psychic abilities and stuff. Since we live in a world full of dubious "psychics," whenever somebody mentions the concept it generally makes me (and I'm guessing lots of other people) instantly more cautious of believing the person in question.

I suppose the only way to know would be to experience it, so I suppose time will tell. :)

Would you care to go into more depth of qigong training you've done in the past?
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Postby DOM » Sun Dec 04, 2005 7:50 pm

First of all your english is way better than mine,so I do not think any one missunderstood what you were saying.How can you not exspect peaple to judge what you have said.You are saying things like you beleave every thing is possable like physicaly flying.And a bunch of other stange things.There is a lot that were not aware of, or understand yet that will be possable.But some of the things your saying is more unbeleavable to us t than when Christ was saying he was the son of god to those 2000 years ago.I have heard Dr.Yang say that your mind can take you any were you want to go or travel.But I do not think he ment flying around like a jet plane.Lets say that the things you say are possable.What will it take to be able to reach this state.You two guys are talking like buddas.I would like to know what kid of training have you done,what kind of life style you live and how long have you been practicing these methodes you talk about, that will lead us to such a high spiritual leval.There are monks that hid them selves away and devot their intire lives to reach budda hood.They are able to perform amazing feats but I have yet heard about one that could fly or pull objects from other dimensions.So please tell us what exactly are your training methodes who is your instuctor and how many decades have you trained.Oh and by the way since you read the root of chines chigung look at chapter 14.I beleave Dr.Yang got this information from ancient buddist and Doist documents.So it is the masters from the past that gave there whole lives to the study of chigung and hundreds of years of exsperiance that say certain chigung training can be dangerous.
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Postby Flip » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:45 am

Anybody that had devoted so much time to Qigong, Taoism, etc, that they had reached these heights would not be posting on a public forum.

Look at the stories about some great Kung Fu masters, they go to their graves never passing on their knowledge because they cannot find people worthy of it. Or even look at living masters.

Even, for instance, Dr. Yang. While I've never met him, I doubt that he passes on knowledge about advanced dim mak techniques to people in their first week of training.

But now we're entertaining the thoughts that somebody who can pull objects from other dimensions is going to share with us this knowledgre? Good night.
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Postby adamfuray » Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:06 pm

considering the high level of wisdom required to have what these guys are claiming, wouldn't they be wise enough to know that the manner in which they are displaying themselves would not be well recieved? the internet is a good thing, but due to it's anonymous nature, attracts liars. just when it seems like qigong is making breakthroughs to people, you get yahoo's that give it a terrible name. but since you can see the future, you knew i was going to say that. for your next trick, you should reply to posts before they are posted. that would make belivers out of everyone.
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Postby Pooh_Tao » Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:16 pm

Well, in willm's defence, he never said he could fly, he said he believed it was possible, and my philosophy would be that until you can honestly say you know everything, you shouldn't cancel things out one hundred percent. But whatever, the whole psychic phenomenon area is extremely dubious.

Pretty tricky...
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Postby ANDRESPERATION » Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:14 pm

Greatings to all on this forum,

I have no doubt that Beggarsu is telling the truth. And willm is also correct about the need for us all to get a grip on reality in these days in times. I have a hope to dedicate my life to qigong for the betterment of the worls with the help of the 13 moon calander (LawOfTime.org), because that unites man with the moon and the whole cosmos in time and that very definatly builds on what Dr. Yang had said about being meditating in harmony with the earth's magnetic field. My qi circulation is so poor that if i am to listen to it the ringing in my ears is verry audible. Does any one have any advice for calming the mind so that natural breathing can become manifest?
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Postby Dvivid » Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:42 pm

Let me start by saying that NOONE likes to be "ridiculised."

1. ANDRESPERATION - If you can hear your ears ringing, that does not mean your Qi circulation is very bad. It only means that you are good at paying attention, because it is normal to hear your nervous sytem ringing in your ears, if one stops to listen.

To calm your mind...just calm your mind. Don't worry about it, and spend a bunch of time asking others how to calm your mind. Its YOUR mind, only you know how calm or uncalm it is. Your mind will be exactly as calm as you decide it will be. Just observe the breath as it goes in and out. pay attention to nothing else. When a random thought arises, recognize that it has happened with neutral emotions, and turn your attention back to the breath going in and out. Small Circulation is a natural process and you needn't force it. if you sit and pay careful attention to only your breathing, your Qi will circulate in the fire path. Relax.

2. Flip - Dr. Yang doesn't pass on his real Dim Mak knowledge to anyone, at all, ever - with the exception of what is revealed on the surface level during Chin Na training.

3. Willm. Willm Willm.- Thank you for "illustrating your vision for some people". I am certain that your intention is to promote the study of Qigong, starting with Embryonic Breathing and Small Circulation, for the betterment of one's self and therefore for all of mankind. I am happy to hear you have attained such a level of development. Good luck with your continued training and with teaching Qigong to others. However, the language barrier must be overcome so that you can accurately teach others the detailed Qigong theory required for advanced study.

For instance, I believe the following is difficult for other to understand:
I personnaly think that the path of humanity created by superior organisation is destructive and reductive for the collective mind and that it will certainly reach a very inconfortable level which only some masterizing of energy/matter will preserve somekind of wealthyness to human.


I believe I can intuit and translate what you are saying (perhaps thanks to my training):
The MAN is holding us down.
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Postby Douglas Scott DuLac » Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:34 am

Begarsu and Willm,
Don't appologize for sharing your experiences. Listen to all of us. If we go and talk to somebody about feeling energy go up and down the spine that has never experienced it then they would back off and consider us 'full of it' or delusional. What we're talking about is only finer levels of sensitivity. I believe that psychics simply possess only that- finer levels of sensitivity. There's nothing to be ashamed of or to hide, especially on a forum such as this.

I appreciate your experiences(phenomenons?) After all, think about the yogis that experience hightened levels of consciousness in India and the siddhis. They're very similar to what has been written in this thread.
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Qigong Meditation -- Energy Flow, Dreaming

Postby SageMorpheus » Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:08 pm

I have been meditating twice daily, for thirty years; mostly sitting quietly with a mantra, and concentrating on breathing. Over the years a verbal mantra (in the head) has faded to a subtle "pulsing sensation" which originates at the lower DT, and appears consciously somewhat as a foggy faint light in that area.

During meditation, the brightness of the light does not change, but travels upward to the upper DT area, where I also feel a pulsing behind the forehead area -- like the pituitary and pineal glands are "dripping or secreting" with each pulse. Eventually, the intensity of the pulse increases to the point where it results in my entire upper body going around in circles, with the origin of the pulse remaining "centered" at the lower DT, or sometimes lower, at the perineum -- kind of like a top spinning upon its point. I don't get dizzy or anything, its just a spontaneous, uncontrolled, energy-charged manifestation that is extremely calming, and that I can stop at any time --but why! Eventually, all the movement stops and I just sit there without thought for the remainder of my meditation.

I have also been a student of recording my dreams (C.G. Jung), religiously, since 1985, in my journal, struggling to see what they mean, as a means of "purging or purifying" and letting go of things I need to change about myself, deal with, or leave behind. I have noticed that since around 2003, my dreams have become less frequent, with long stretches in between -- suggesting I am either very contented in my life, or, I am seriously avoiding what needs to be dealt with.

Last year, by accident or by design, partly from wondering whether I had been driving a VW or a Mercedes (in terms of my meditation) all these years, I ran into Dr. Yang's DVD-1 Qigong, and bought Qigong Embryonic Breathing. As instructed, I started focusing my attention on the lower DT, in the intestinal area, and working on the Daoist breathing, small circulation. All of the "energy manifestations" I mentioned above, continued, and in some cases intensified a little. But the more interesting thing is, my dreams returned, to be more frequent, introducing yet more "grist for the mill" to work on in terms of my spiritual "journey".

Dr. Yang, in his DVD-1 Qigong (Highly Recommended), has a slide that shows how the Real DT is comprised of (intestines) "memory" six-times a person's height, and apparently, it is considered as "the second brain" -- hence, perhaps, having "a gut feel". One of Carl Jung's principal contributions to science is that dreams are symbolic, meaningful allegories from the unconscious. I am wondering if focusing consciousness to the Lower DT, in the intestinal area, especially during meditation, is waking up my unconscious, and therefore increased dreaming. I'm even wondering if Dr. Yang's Lower DT, IS the unconscious mind (I guess its okay to wonder, since no one has told me where it is).

I've always felt "the only way, is the lonely way", so I've kind of been flying solo all these years, not really sharing any of this "inner journey" with others.

I would be interested to know if any of this connects with others, to the extent you would wish to comment.
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