Dayan Qigong (Wild Goose)

[witleo]

Just interested in anyone training in Dayan Qigong.

Have you tried any other systems of Qigong or just Dayan ???

[jfraser]

Witleo,
Yes, I was taught it by the assistant dean of the Wu Shu Department at Jimei University in Xiamen, Fujian. That was about 6 years ago. I practiced it for a while back in the USA, but did not continue. I only learned the external form and not the internal aspects and principles. I have come to the opinion that with out these, qigong may be of little benefit. It is long and complex.

Dr. Yang's 8 Pieces of Brocade is great, on DVD. I like it so much that I plan to get the book also. He does teach the internal aspects in detail. And it is much better in quality than anything I have found on the Internet on this subject.

James

[witleo]

Jfraser:
How many of the forms of Dayan Qigong did you learn ???

[jfraser]

The whole set of movements, it was fairly long. I still have a Chinese DVD of this set, from years ago in Xiamen.

James

[witleo]

Dayan Qigong constists of many forms.
Each form builds on the movement & feeling of the previous form.
A maxium of 3 forms a year is taught, usually less.

It is usually broken into 3 groups. The list below is what is taught in my club.

Beginner:
1st 64 movements
2nd 64 movement
Patting Meridians

Intermediate:
Kunlun Bagau
Spiral & Tripod Hands

Higher:
Soft Palms
Dayan Palms
Five Element Bagau

The Dayan system has many more forms.
Originally it had boxing & sword but these are not taught these days

Dayan is based on the movement of wild geese & bagua theory.
The 1st & 2nd 64 movements are linear Bagau walking.
Also 'Ba' - meaning '8' - thus 8x8 = 64

The other forms have circular & linear stepping.

The first 64 movements is the basic foundation of the style & must be practised during all training. This is why this is the most commonly trained.

There is also some seated meditations taught at each level of form development.

I have just finished learning 'Soft palms' set.
I've found it to be a good system - but cause I've never trained in any other forms of Qigong - its an empty judgement.

[jfraser]

I learned the 64 movement set, and as I said before, just the movements and nothing about how to focus mind, Yi , the purpose for each movement, the directions(s) of the qi flow and the principles behind the set in general, as well as each movement.

I also practiced sitting into low horse riding stance (ma bo), arms extended out to each side, palms down, and I got up to 30 minutes after a while of practice. This is from Lan Shou Chuan, and makes you feel like a powerful, fierce, and hungry tiger.

James

[witleo]

JFRASER
What you learned when you studied the first 64 form sounds typical/correct.

As modern Dayan Qigong is classed a Medical Qigong system it does not place a lot on intent 'Yi'.

The main theory is that a well organised set of movements stimulates Qi flow along various meridians.

The 1st & 2nd 64 forms are mainly linear in action with some rising & falling movements.
As you learn different forms the movements become more turning, circular & twisting.

When you get more indepth with the form your breathing will change according to the movements, also promoting good Qi flow.

Does 8 Pieces of Brocade place a lot on intent ?

[Dvivid]

Hi,

Yes, the Eight Brocades does involve the intent in each movement, in a very simple way.

That's why its so effective - even though it is considered "layperson qigong" because you don't need to know qigong theory, it still gives simple instructions of what the mind should be doing while you practice each movement/posture.

Thanks, great post on Dayan Qigong. Would love to hear more.

[witleo]

Dvivid
As I was saying - originally Kunlun Dayan Qigong was a huge system (some say 70 forms).

But it seems most web pages only contain the 1st & 2nd 64 movement.

Listed below are a couple of links from people who have been exposed to some other forms of the system - a lot of them unknown by our club (if you compare my earlier posting).

http://www.qimagazine.com/qigong.htm
This one contains a bit of background on the system.

http://www.qiqigong.com which contains some movies clips of the style. Most of these forms covered by my Sifu

http://dayan.oompa.net/qigong-syllabus.html with yet some more different forms[/url]

[stretch5881]

Howdy,
I am new to the YMAA, but may be helpful here.
I've been practicing the 1st 64 movements of wild goose qigong for 7 years, which has been fantastic for my back and artheritis. When I learned this art, internal information from my sifu was very slow in coming. So I bought 2 books that are invaluable to me.
"Wild Goose Qigong" by Michael Tse and
"Chi Kung" by Wen Mei Yu
I hope these will help.

[witleo]

Hi stretch5881,
I have the book "Chi Kung" by Wen Mei Yu - yes its very good.

The other book I have is 'Dayan Qigong' written by Yang Meijun.
The book is very small & was originally written in Chinese then translated into English.
It just goes through the first 64 movements. No where near as in-depth as the first book mention.

I will check out the other book you mentioned - thanks