Is there connection between Qigong (Meridians) and Chakras

[Inga]

paper, have a look at the post "interesting discovery" here on the qigong board around november time last year.

[Inga]

vielen dank aber meine deutsch ist nichts sehr gut. ich verstehen einzig ein bisschen. und ich schreiben eben schlechter.

[Dvivid]

The 7 chakras correspond to the 7 pairs of matching gates in the conception and governing vessels.

[abersold]

Hi,

Many theories on Chakras and Conception & Governing Meridian Connections. It is believed by some teachers that I studied with is this

Chakras:
Depending on what system you study some teach it as 7 or 12 Chakra system. It is belived that these 7 or 12 main Chakras in the human energy system. align up the spine from the base to the crown of the head. They are non-anatomical vortixes of energy which exist just outside and within the physical body at what is called the "etheric level of the auara field; this lies outside of and interpenetrates our physical body.

Their purpose has been expierenced as to filter energy throughout our system so that we have enough vitality to live healthy. They have been described also as the deeper gateways to the emotional body, hence the obvious and sometimes confusing matching gates on conception & governing meridian.

Practical use: It is advised by traditionalist that study these systems to do the following and I learned it this way:

Typical approach 6-9 months or until the process has been carefully absorbed into your body-mind safely.

1. Regulation practices "awareness or Mindfullness Meditation" consistently for many months .

2. MicroCosmic (Many ways to practice this, I feel Master Yangs approach is taught with practical safeguards)

3. Chakra Meditation: Utilizes balancing the emotional body, through Chakra portals & working with different dynamics of each Chakra Gate.
The fad about 10 years ago were utilizing Carl Jung's Collective un-consciousness theories with each gate, now termed "Archetypes".

This is very deep releasing and potentially highly emotionally charged, alot of deep cleansing. So working with the Chakras on a deep level as such is for sure a deep balancing practice.

I view this approach going from outside to deep inside. The emotional balancing should be done with great care obviously a qualified teacher is essential.

There are some Jungian Psychotherapist who utilize this in their practice also the healing use of using Mandalas. Be careful when playing in the emotional body, you can dig up something you might not know how to handle; with a EXPERT they can guide you safely. This is why I believe a teacher is essential especially here.

Probaly more than you wanted to hear, and this is a mere viewpoint, a great question to say the least, a very common vague perception at best due to the confusion of clearly east indian rooted system, playing in the Chinese perceived systems & fields of Qi.



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[yeniseri]

I would use their rationale while still separating the systems.

Energy centers, though not having a physical reality (like the heart) may affect diferent people in various way so sensing that energy level would be important to verify which system to use, be jingluo or ayurvedic chakra 'physiology;.

[Dvivid]

In YMAA, Dr. Yang's qigong theory states that the energy centers DO in fact have a "physical reality". We try to avoid getting too mystical, and instead research these ancient traditions with a modern scientific perspective.

These chakras, or energy centers, or matching cavity pairs, function as pumps or gates, regulating the flow of energy through our energy system.



According to most ancient traditions, these 7 energy centers exist within the body, and there are others which exist outside the body, on a higher dimensional plane, which cannot be seen, but can be experienced through training. Let's talk though about what we know and can easily research.

The lowest chakra, RED, relates to the Hui Yin cavity - the Yin meeting place in the body - the perenium, as well as that general area of the body from fron to back. It is called the Root chakra because the body connects through this gate to the Earth. The perenium and surrounding area is the physical location of this "chakra". The word chakra describes the function of this area of the body, which is, it acts as a pump for the energetic system, as well as a major energy gate in the body. The Indian sytem gets more involved in the emotions and levels of human evolution, both physical and spiritual, related to each energy center, but the correspondence, as Abersold said, is very clear.

The next one up, ORANGE, is the lower dan tian, and/or the correspondng gates on the belly and and back. The lower dan tian is physically located in the large and small intestines, and it is the main place where energy is stored and released in the body. It is considered to be the second brain, and is called the Enteric nervous system by western science.

Etc. Each chakra can be described from the Chinese tradition, and they do have a real, physical existence. They are not airy, fairy nonsense as so often they are described by people who do not know what they are talking about.

If you research each chakra, you'll see that the general experience of each corresponds between ancient Indian, Chinese, and other traditions, whatever these areas of the body are called.

Dr. Yang's books explain this system and these gates very clearly, without the nonsense you'll find from many other sources. I highly recommend you use them for your research.

For a more purely Indian view of these energy centers, this site is pretty detailed:
http://www.kheper.net/topics/chakras/chakras.htm

[Dvivid]

dupe

[zhan zhuang]

my friend..
chakras.. energy centers..

these are all just different systems of understanding.

many ways to explain phenomena.

[How Ming]

In your case Paper I dont think so. It may be some other factor.
You might wnat to try accupuncture or find a traditional bone healer for you leg problem. (It doesnt hurt checking with your regular doctor first of course)

Just keep in mind traditional Chinese healers (East Indian healers too) diagnose not just the symptoms but teh whole body and it could be other reasons altogether.

[tulipbee]

[quote="paper"]Is there connection between Qigong (Meridians and Dan Tien) and Chakras? [/quote]

I read that the Hindu's version of the energy centers, the 7 Chakras might be more harmful than the Japanese version of the energy centers, the 3 chakras. Once the Kundilini serpet awakens, and find it's way to the brian, one might get sick or go crazy. The Zenist say it won't happen with their version of energy centers.
Emei Qigong has 3 energy centers. Am I right?

TulipBee

[Dvivid]

Hi.

The chakras, energy centers, and even kundalini snake, are not harmful. They are naturals aspects, or functions, of your body. Each is a system to describe certain physiological functions of the body, which were developed through years of experience of turning the attention inward.

Zen Buddhism, Indian Yoga, Chinese Qigong, are different systems dealing with the same physical human body. each system is safe, and each has some dangers when one gets into advanced training.

Only when you have accumulated a great deal of Qi, and can successfully lead it into your brain, will you become a danger to yourself.

Don't worry. Practice, practice, practice.

[yeniseri]

Regardless of which system is used, chakras or meridians by themselves
are harmless. It is the human conditon that makes them dangerous whetehr by forcing certain things to happen, not spending enough time practicing, not being aware of projection of consciousness that may injure, etc so one should study with a trained teacher to get best result.

The best thinf I can come up with is the way one makes tea.
a. Place bag in cup (easy)
b. Pour hot water in cup easy (easy)
c. Allow water to soak bag (waiting part difficult)
Allow contents to soak through (waiting part difficult)
Bag will eventually sink (depending on how strong the tea)

Trying to push the bag to absorb will only result in it rising to the top.
Let go and the bag will sink on its own. Same with training!