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xingyi

Postby tico » Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:39 am

Hey

Wich style of xing yi does dr yang and master Liang do? Hebei, Xangxi, henan?

Is Xingyi an boedist style or a muslim style?

thanx tico
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Postby John the Monkey mind » Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:23 pm

Its not a Muslim style its supposedly derived from Shoalin a long way back.
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Postby John the Monkey mind » Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:59 am

I love Yi Quan, I practise it in conjunction with my Xing Yi. My teacher makes little distinction between the arts.
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Re: xingyi

Postby SzJoska » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:33 am

Hi i have few questions waiting for answers:

Question 1: If i'm a beginner, so i'm practicing like i said now about 4 month, but i only done San Ti Shi (max period 8 min.), Tim Cartmell's warm up and Liang Shou You's Qigong, since then i put away my dumbbels and i thought if i should or not begin some bodyweight execises like: pushups, situps, squats till i get to one arm pushups and pistols (one legged squats) ? or Tim Cartmell's and Liang Shou You's qigong should be enough ?

Question 2: If i could only do 8 min San Ti Shi then it's better to not to begin Pi quan?

Question 3: In Dr. Yang's and Liang Shou You' book the changing direction in Pi quan it's not written wrongly? Because when i read deeply not only once, i thought: if you end with left hand Pi, then do the turning like it's written, then step with your right leg forward then (it's written that you do the right hand Pi) you should repeat the left hand Pi ? because the right leg is in front no ? or am i wrong?

Question 4: It could be a good thing doing San Ti Shi and with time the five elements with wrist bag and ankle bag, too?

Sorry for too many questions, good practicing, and good day!
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Re: xingyi

Postby Amaranth » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:15 am

As for heavy exercise - it is almost always a short-term gain for a long-term loss. Just look at football player injuries in the US from training hard (not even playing). If you do hard workouts or actions in general - ideally you would want to spend at least an equal amount of time beforehand doing warmups and also an equal amount of time afterward for recovery... although ideal, not always reasonable given scheduling. Just try not to push yourself so much that you can't perform due to injury. Take it easy if you want good health. Instead of giving it 110% - try 70%... As a martial artist... would you want to be placed in a situation where you need to quickly defend yourself while all of your muscles are burning?
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Re: xingyi

Postby John the Monkey mind » Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:56 pm

Amaranth wrote:As for heavy exercise - it is almost always a short-term gain for a long-term loss. Just look at football player injuries in the US from training hard (not even playing). If you do hard workouts or actions in general - ideally you would want to spend at least an equal amount of time beforehand doing warmups and also an equal amount of time afterward for recovery... although ideal, not always reasonable given scheduling. Just try not to push yourself so much that you can't perform due to injury. Take it easy if you want good health. Instead of giving it 110% - try 70%... As a martial artist... would you want to be placed in a situation where you need to quickly defend yourself while all of your muscles are burning?


I agree but keep pushing yourself so your 70% of maximum is always more than in the last month.
I have a written a schedule for myself and stick to it. So if I am on about 60 lunges and 25 min horse stance. By the next week it should be 70 lunges and 30 min horse stance and so on.

I do a bunch of other exercises, warm ups, stretching and striking from stances but I wont go into that. Still time constraints are a problem so once I hit 100 for the lunges I intend holding weights and building up that way and I may use the same idea for some other exercises and rotate strikes and blocks in for 10,000 reps over a couple of weeks so I can work on everything. My horse stance is my main focus and my cool down at the moment and that seems to work for me.

The only thing I don't want to time limit is the horse stance so I am thinking of moving it to a septate session last thing at night once I get to around an hour. I haven't got any injures from my training so far but really work up a sweat and am a lot stronger.

As for the Xing Yi standing exercises are essential to be any good at it. Maybe I should reajust my focus to Xing Yi as its a really amazing style and I have only been doing a little of late :?
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Re: xingyi

Postby Amaranth » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:20 pm

Yes... improvement without doing long term damage. ;) I find that swimming is one of the best and quickest ways to warmup and cooldown after a strenuous workout routine. Not just swimming in general, but moving about to loosen things up.
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Re: xingyi

Postby SzJoska » Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:02 pm

Hello, happy new year to everyone!
I would like to question that is Xingyiquan good for absolutely first style?
Or it would be better learning some external kung fu like Shaolin kung fu firstly for leg strength because of the lot of stances in it and for becoming stronger? Even the majority of kung fu masters practiced some kind of external kung fu in early years and only after maybe 30 years old they began learning some kind of internal kung fu. Or what if somebody starts with internal, just doing some external dumbbell and else body conditioning and bodybuilding exercises? Or is it enough some pushups and one legged squats and situps (plus San Ti Shi of course :) )for xingyiquan and you will have enough strenght? So is it worth spending time with external style if you like more to learn Xingyiquan? Good practise to you!!!
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Re: xingyi

Postby yeniseri » Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:49 pm

The best style is usually one you believe you can adapt to,work with, and over time excel at its physical conditioning levels. I personally do not believe in the "internal' as being superior but my limited view is that if you have done the 'jibengong' of, and for that art, over time you will develop those 'interrnal' qualitites based on gong and physical conditioning skills.

Good parkour adepts have great internal skill!
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Re: xingyi

Postby Dvivid » Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:16 pm

These recent Xingyi theory articles may or may not have been written by Marshall Fei Yue, but they have some great stuff:

http://ymaa.com/articles/2014/12/marsha ... ses-part-1
"Avoid Prejudice, Be Objective in Your Judgement, Be Scientific, Be Logical and Make Sense, Do Not Ignore Prior Experience." - Dr. Yang

http://www.ymaa.com/publishing
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