A Question concerning the character for 'Rollback' (lü3)

[shenfeng]

Hello everybody,

I have a small problem and would be glad, if you could forward this to Dr. Yang. Or maybe some of you are more advanced in Chinese than me and can answer my question right away. That would be great, too.

My cousin lent me his YMAA DVD about the classical Yang Style Taijiquan. At the beginning where the eight basic postures are explained I came across the chinese character lü3 for rollback which is 扌(on the left side) + 屢 (on the right). However, this character seems to be no longer in use, since I couldn't find it in the current chinese character sets.
Well I looked around on the net and found that this character here 捋 seems to have taken the place of the one above.

So my concrete question is: Is it somehow possible to write the character for lü given on the DVD by means of the standard IME-input-method?

Another thing I noticed is that the character 掤 for 'peng' isn't pronounced 'peng' anymore but 'bing'. How about that? Do the Chinese still pronouce that 'peng' when they are talking in terms of Taijiquan?


Thanks for your help,
Miriam

[Dave C.]

So my concrete question is: Is it somehow possible to write the character for lü given on the DVD by means of the standard IME-input-method?

No, not if it's not a character that is in common use. There are many obscure characters that IME doesn't cover.

Another thing I noticed is that the character 掤 for 'peng' isn't pronounced 'peng' anymore but 'bing'. How about that? Do the Chinese still pronouce that 'peng' when they are talking in terms of Taijiquan?

Rule of thumb: don't use normal Chinese dictionaries for martial arts usage terms. It won't work. For example, I'm not aware of pronouncing peng as bing. Of course, Chinese taiji people still refer to it as peng. Nothing has changed, it's just the dictionaries you're looking at don't give martial usage.

If you're really fascinated with this, there is a martial arts/wushu C-E E-C dictionary in mainland China.

Good luck.