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Monsoon wrote:I really wanted to post this on the other thread about morality but it got locked before I had the chance. Anyway, my point was this: why does anyone (I'm looking specifically at you Dvivid ) think that martial morality is any different from the normal kind of morality?
The 'rule' for wude that was put up in the first post of the ill-fated thread are pretty much the exact same morals that I was brought up with outside of any martial background.
Good morality is good morality. There is no reason to assume a higher ground position just because one studies a martial art.
Just sayin'
Monsoon
yat_chum wrote:"Morality comes before and after the fight."
Grandmaster Abner Pasa, Balitok Eskrima
Morality is socially informed in many ways and thus can differ from region to region and culture to culture, WuDe is more standardized.
Core morals, on this world at least, are largely the same across ALL societies. WuDe is certainly not more standardised than any other moral code. Although I am not a Christian perhaps I should point you in the direction of the 10 Commandments. Nothing more standardised than that! And incidentally, almost identical to what is derived from the Quran, and indeed the teachings of Gautama.
codified
Verb:
Arrange (laws or rules) into a systematic code.
Arrange according to a plan or system.
Morality of Deed
Humility, Respect, Righteousness, Trust and Loyalty
Morality of Mind
Will, Endurance, Perseverance, Patience and Courage
Good morality is good morality. There is no reason to assume a higher ground position just because one studies a martial art.
The ethic of reciprocity is the only moral. If you followed this one rule you would need no others. Which is perhaps why it is known as the 'Golden Rule'. All other codes are nothing more that attempts to explain this one.
Disagreement does not mean that we cannot be friends, does it?
It is a good basic level teaching, but I also disagree very strongly with this. Wu De for example goes far beyond it.
I would like to think that if you met someone who truly emodied those concepts then you would not use the word 'seemed', that you would be utterly confident. Note: this is not a criticsim or judgement of you or the people you have met, simply an opinion.I've met a few people in life that seemed to embody that, but honestly very very few.
On the sabbath though (sorry), it is NOW held to be saturday for Judaism/Sunday for Christians, but the word pre-dates any mention of actual named days of the week
Yom Rishon - יום ראשון (abbreviated יום א׳) = "first day" = Sunday (starting at preceding sunset)
Yom Sheni - יום שני (abbr. יום ב׳) = "second day" = Monday
Yom Shlishi - יום שלישי (abbr. יום ג׳) = "third day" = Tuesday
Yom Reviʻi - יום רביעי (abbr. יום ד׳) = "fourth day" = Wednesday
Yom Chamishi - יום חמישי (abbr. יום ה׳) = "fifth day" = Thursday
Yom Shishi - יום ששי (abbr. יום ו׳) = "sixth day" = Friday
Yom Shabbat - יום שבת (abbr. יום ש׳) or more usually שבת - Shabbat = "Sabbath day (Rest day)" = Saturday
I would like to think that if you met someone who truly emodied those concepts then you would not use the word 'seemed', that you would be utterly confident
Thank you for your patience and willingness to at least hear another opinion. Not so common these days, sadly.
I disagree that the ethic of reciprocity represents the highest expression of morals, rather I think it is the most basic and primitive form of moral realization.
When I talk about confidence in meeting one of those special people who embody all the virtues we aspire to, I am referring to that unexplainable sense of rightness that you sometimes get
It's interesting that quite a lot of people view simplicity as primitive and complexity as evolved.
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