Beng Bu and Xiao Hu Yan

[desa'84]

I know these two sequences are from Tang Lang, but they are so different from original versions, do you know something about their history? Did GM Han modify them like that? Or did he learn them in that way?

[nyang]

Hi desa'84:

"Original" is defined from a relative point of view. As learned by Grandmaster Li, Mao-Ching, both Beng Bu and Xiao Hu Yan are complete traditional Mantis sequences (unchanged, as far as we know).

The lineage is actually not from GGM Han, Chin-Tang. It is from GGM Fu, Jia-Bin (傅家賓) -- one of Grandmaster Li's masters. You'll notice that Beng Bu and Xiao Hu Yan have the same closing, and it differs from such forms as Yi Lu Mai Fu, Er Lu Mai Fu, and Shi Zi Tang. The forms in the latter all have the same closing and come from GGM Han, Chin-Tang.

[desa'84]

Ok, when I've said "original" I meant, for example, Beng Bu from Lee Kam Wing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbVF8XybD6c
I thought that our mantis forms were from Luo Guang Yu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPO01_FzBiU , one of the long fist's founders.
Which was the Fu JiaBin's mantis style?

[nyang]

Hrmm ... no idea. Seen that Beng Bu form from Lee Kam Wing before, and from what I know, it is traditional and additionally, it is supposed to be the same form as our YMAA Beng Bu. But I don't know which one derived from the other. In that same light, I don't know if our form comes from Luo, Guang-Yu.

Gonna have to defer to somebody else with better knowledge of the lineage ... >_< That'd be a cool project if we could completely map out the generations.

[desa'84]

I've just known that Fu Jiabin learnt Liu He Tang Lang from Ding Zi Cheng