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Monsoon wrote:I think your premise is flawed. For a start you are comparing something that very few people accept with something that is accepted by quite a large audience.
Not wishing to be arguementative but simply because only a few people believe in something does not make it false. Neither does it make it true. Same thing could be said for something that has lots of adherents. Just because a large amount of people believe in something doesn't make it a fact. And vice versa. Both large and small groups of people have been known to be taken in(if you will) by all sorts of ideas.
Monsoon wrote:...I think your extremely negative view of qigong is probably based on your own personal experiences of it. That's not a rational, nor enquiring position.
pete5770 wrote:I realize that this won't be popular, seeing as how I'm something of a dis-believer, but here goes.
caesar wrote:pete5770 wrote:I realize that this won't be popular, seeing as how I'm something of a dis-believer, but here goes.
..and when you were provided with it plenty of times (scientific studies), you replied you're not interested reading it because it "bores you like politics." How do you think that's fair? ....
Earlier you asked for proof and evidence...and when you were provided with it plenty of times (scientific studies), you replied you're not interested reading it because it "bores you like politics."
caesar wrote:But once again I'm only frustrated with your way of debating and not your believes or things you see as truth or false...you see, as you quoted me you left out an important part, let me assist you there...Earlier you asked for proof and evidence...and when you were provided with it plenty of times (scientific studies), you replied you're not interested reading it because it "bores you like politics."
caesar wrote:Then why keep on going with your statement? Everybody here already knows your believes or non believes. It feels like you are treating people who practice Qi Gong as bad as scientologists, why not bash their forum instead? Almost everybody here states that diet comes first. In the topic where one asked help for knee injury, the first reply from a user was "GO SEE A DOCTOR". A person came to ask help, and he was answered "GO SEE A DOCTOR!" Then you stated that one shouldn't ask medical help here at all, although the place immidiately replied "GO SEE A DOCTOR."
In your previous post you left an important part of mine unquoted. You have been doing the same thing on this forum on and on. Why? It only makes things more complicated, do you get satisfaction from that? It's terribly annoying, seeing people giving you reasonable and clarifying answers and then you usually pick on one tiny sentence where it is easy to hit (taking the sentence away from the bigger picture, which literally kills the user's point.) You should really read the older topics and you would see that once again this topic you felt is important to ask has been debated over and over with you...feels like you're afraid to look in the mirror.
It also feels as you have strong prejudice on things and want to state that all the time...over...and over...and over...
I think your extremely negative view of qigong is probably based on your own personal experiences of it.
... it doesn't deliver on it's promises, and until someone convinces you of it's validity you most likely will simply file the matter away in your head, to be brought up again at various times. Still you won't believe it because whatever, so called, new information that you may read over will most likely simply be recycled stuff that you remember from days gone by. And there still won't be what you might call "proof", that satisfies you.
Secondly none of you are qualified to give medical advise. None, Zero, Nada, to put it bluntly.
Monsoon wrote:AddendumSecondly none of you are qualified to give medical advise. None, Zero, Nada, to put it bluntly.
I was just looking at my professional medical qualifications and you know what? I now realise that they are just so much scrap paper, I might as well toss them into the garbage.
Thanks, Pete, for such a forthright an unerring service that you have provided.
As for prejudicial views. Are mine any more prejudice on the subject than yours? I'm simply one person questioning the validity of Qigong yet the fear that I seem to instill in everyone for even hinting that it's not all it claims really makes me wonder about the faith you all profess to have in it. The old saying "he doth protest's too much" come to mind. Doesn't make any sense that one person could shake your beliefs that much, unless......
caesar wrote:Oh boy Pete...you truly are an anti-everything dude.
Monsoon wrote:
People bring argument and counter-argument to a thread debate. It would serve you well to read carefully both what you have written and what others have, and not simply jump onto your soapbox as soon as a contrary opinion shows itself.
Do you not get on your soapbox(just like myself) to defend your ideas?
I guess you could say I live in the moment.
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