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Josh Young wrote: All of cultures I mention teach mind and body control practices like mudra, mantra and postures, all of them recognize amazing benefits fo those who put their whole being towards the practice. The stated benefits in each case are identical .
Though it is unlikely that those who need it the most arent paying attention at all...
So, all this "non-supported" may just very well be, the people attempting to register the results are actually testing for oxygen using devices to test for water... to dumb it down, have no idea what they are looking for, so they arent using the right equipment to test!
Hell, we arent even like our closest "relatives", apes! Not by a mile, yet science says we are!
Monsoon wrote:2.Hell, we arent even like our closest "relatives", apes! Not by a mile, yet science says we are!
This is not correct. Humans and apes are the end-points of their respective evolutionary branches - not the high point, the end point: there is a difference. Those branches diverged a very long time ago. Apes ARE our closest genetic relatives, but the closeness is relative! (did you see what I did there?). We are alike in as many ways as we are different. In evolutionary biology 'alikeness' (for want of a term) is also relative. We are more like monkeys than bees, for example.
If everything in the world is ONLY what the mind interprets then this holds true for every creature that uses the same senses.
We have humans who kill, humans who build, humans who love, in fact, no two humans are the same, nor will circumstance dictate what that human will accomplish, as much as some scientists want us to believe otherwise.
The activity of a human is unlike anything else on earth, while the genetics have similarities, yes, no one, as of yet, can tell us why, being so similar, humans have far exceed the accomplishments of the next closest relative.
In fact, when we talk of mind, it gets a bit crazy because now one MUST admit to oneself that there is a universal mind! If everything is in mind, how could there be anything but? This is an argument on consciousness! I have heard it put that a human is merely a consciousness that is conscious of itself (making each human part of one).
You keep falling into the trap of believing we are merely physical beings! When BELIEF is considered, all that goes out the window. Belief is not physical!
But what do i know.
You actually believe this too? Fascinating. And if our strivings lead diercetly to our extinction that will be quite the accomplishment too I guess. Not that there will be anybody to preen about it.Accomplishment or our results are ALL we have!
You continue to talk about the physical. You have to let it go man! Science will one day catch up to the truth of what we are, but not by cataloging small difference.
I love discussing science with scientists! Seeing how far their beliefs go before they start to realize they dont know it all (but can't admit it) is fun!
How do you discuss the beauty of a sunset with someone who is wearing sunglasses?
Monsoon wrote:Maltz really was talking about cultivating a self-image before setting off after your goals. ALL animals have goals, we are no different. Dress it up how you will, but with few exceptions all goals are resource oriented. Apes have goals too: food, warmth, company, sex, shelter... to name just a few, and they will cultivate a 'self-image' to acquire them. Questions of scale are not really questions at all.
Science is well aware of the physical/energy dualism. You seem to think it is not aware of this. Our physical world is not a figment of our imaginations.
Now, i fully understand what your beliefs are! You think that we are physical, and we are all separate. That means, our results dont matter! But, what are results again? Oh right! the ends of goals! SO we all spend our days doing nothing! Thats what makes us all the same!
Science is, and always has been, a TOOL! It wasnt meant to be "the only way"! It was meant to help us understand things that theology couldnt or more accurately, didnt concern itself with!
wpgtaiji wrote:An ape has no ability to change what or who they are. They are what they are and will be that way for all time. Are they the same as others? Of course not! But they are all apes, in all their unchanging apeness! AND before you throw a study at me showing "this ape changed", i mean OF THEIR OWN FREE WILL! An animal is an animal because that is all it knows. period.
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