Master Yang's dream

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What are your feelings about Master Yang's California retreat?

I don't fit the profile, but even if I did, I wouldn't go.
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14%
I don't fit the profile. If I did, I would go.
40
50%
I fit the profile, but I can't commit myself that much.
3
4%
I fit the profile but external factors don't allow me to sign up
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8%
I think it's a silly idea.
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5%
I think it's a very difficult decision; can't make up my mind.
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9%
I'm there!
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11%
 
Total votes : 80

Master Yang's dream

Postby monkey » Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:49 pm

I thought it might be interesting to open a topic about Master Yang's dream and his challenge to his students worldwide: would you go to California to train for ten years?

I can't go, I'm 32. Plus I'm married and my son will be born next September, so, even if I was in the age bracket required (17-20, I think), it would be a difficult decision.

How does everyone feel? Anyone out there thinking of signing up?
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Postby scramasax57 » Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:16 pm

i'm 17, i hate school, i'm going out on the 22nd to help build it...i would train for 10 years, no question. that is, i would if master yang deems me worthy.
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Postby dc » Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:37 pm

it's a lot to ask of someone, especially when you are that young. i wouldn't do it, not because i don't want to train, but because of what i would miss. the short of it is:

1) college
2) travelling (based on monetary funds)
3) girlfriend/wife/interaction with them
4) basis for a career
5) practical life skills

the idea is an awesome one and right away i want to say i would do it, having already trained for 13 some odd years; however, i guess i'm too "into the world." lastly, if you work your bottom off, you will improve crazy fast...given having master yang teach you 8 hours a day wrecks that in comparison, but it's still nothing to laugh at.
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Practical life skills

Postby monkey » Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:13 am

Well, as for practical life skills I suppose that if you'd commit to martial arts at that level, then you would always be a martial artist. That would be your skill, your profession, your life.

Be it a competitor, a teacher or even a martial arts actor... or maybe something else entirely... fitness guru, MA book author, etc.

As for being "out of the world", let's not forget that the training will aparently last 9 months out of the year, so you'd still have time off to get reality checks :)
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Postby darth_freak » Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:13 am

though the 5 first years are damn expensiv!!
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Postby N0M4D » Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:11 am

I'd go, if it wasn't for the following:

1 - I'm too old (25);
2 - I'd probably have a bit of a hard time getting a "kung fu training" visa to stay in the States for 10 years;
3 - I could never get the tuition money for the first 5 years.

That said, leaving "the world" might be a bit of a shock at first, but I think I could get used to it. And like Monkey said, you still get 3 months a year off. :lol:

We'll see what the future holds...
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Postby David Grantham » Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:57 am

Same story...too old too late. :cry: . oh well my life is great. wife , children, job..etc.
by the way, Pedro, congrats on the child on the way.get plenty of sleep now.hahahahah :D

if i had the time and age, no question about it.
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Postby Inga » Sun Nov 13, 2005 6:40 pm

monkey, i was wondering what the results of your survey were? did you get much feedback? this is such a wonderful idea, i can't see how anyone could object to it. one just would not go if one did not fit the profile, but to have such an opportunity...our lives are so busy and fast these days, so immediate, it is hard to conceive of giving oneself to something so wholeheartedly for so long.
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Postby zipwolf » Mon Nov 14, 2005 2:32 am

I would love to do it, but like all the other posts here, i have too many commitments.

However not too late. I could do it if i was determined and uber and had no commitments!

But i procrastinate, i am not uber, and have.. lots of commitments.
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Postby Gh0st1 » Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:02 pm

Can One choose what martial art he'll practice for ten years? I mean could I train only Gongfu, or train only Taiji and not both? And how much is the tuition and where can I get all the information on the profile Master Yang is looking for?

Thanks.
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Postby scramasax57 » Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:53 pm

you don't choose. you learn what he chooses. i'm pretty sure the other information you're looking for is somewhere on this website- keep looking.

oh and the tuition is returned to you if you complete the ten years. that's a big if.
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Re: Master Yang's dream

Postby one_ethic » Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:57 am

Could anyone explain to me what "Master Yang's dream" is? I've searched the mainpage - but i havent found anything about that at all.

"would you go to California to train for ten years?"

I would go tomorrow and stay 10+ years, or until Master Yang would get tired of me :) If i had the opportunity that is (ie. money, visum and so on).

Peace.
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Postby one_ethic » Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:30 pm

Ah! I finally found out some more information about it. I was using the wrong search field (i only searched the site - not the forum).
I was dissapointed to see that there was an 20 age limit thought, as i am to old.. :cry:

But i believe nothing is impossible. I'll just have to do some SERIOUS Qi Gung so i can come of as a twenty year old.. :)
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Postby zipwolf » Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:22 am

lol, good plan my man!


And everyone here who has the too old excuse, but has the drive and few enough commitments to do something like this, you could always train fully nine months out of the year ANYWAY.

Look up temp jobs, organise them for that time of year when you wont be training, and then train your rear off for the rest of the time!

That'd rock!
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Postby Dvivid » Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:23 am

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Postby Artemisalive » Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:46 am

I have come across a lot of different opinions on a variety of forums. They range from the "fantasy camp" attitudes, to "it cannot be done". I believe that this needs to be looked at differently.

Definitely a serious decision, but not unheard of. It is a career choice, and a professional training.

Like a 17-22 year old person "deciding" to become a doctor - many a med student (or law student) drops out. It usually takes at least 11 years to become a doctor: 4 years of college, 4 years of medical school, and 3 years working in a hospital. Some specialties require a doctor to spend up to 8 years working in a hospital.

The curriculum is extensive, covering both martial and non-martial subjects, with guest instructors providing perspective.

Those who come out the other side will be at the top of the heap in the US, with the training and experience to prosper. The $90,000 start-up fund is in stark contrast the number of university students who graduate buried in student loans.

If you do not want to be a professional teacher of traditional Chinese martial and healing arts...do not apply. This is for the few. They will be changed.

A one-time opportunity.

For the students who are ready, the teacher has come.

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re: Dr. Yang's Dream

Postby tcozz » Tue May 02, 2006 6:35 pm

I think this is an incredible idea and would jump at the chance. However, I've studied MA for about 8 years now (and am quite old - 43) and am not sure that I *could* have comprehended the worth of MA until I was quite older than the 22 year limit.

I hope that this idea bears great fruit - it is an astounding idea and I am sure that Dr. Yang will create something fantastic.

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Postby dedicated » Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:45 pm

I am so irritated with how this turned out for me. I would do anything to be able to go on that trip. It is my dream to be put through mind melting training. Yet, sadly, I am only 16. I wish it would have waited for just another year. I would do whatever it took to be able to go train for ten years straight away from everything. Unfortunately, I am not that lucky. :cry:
I am ready to devote the rest of my life and everything I have to improving myself in the art of Tai Chi Chuan.
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Postby BrianMcK » Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:39 pm

AMAZING concept, but. . .

1) Even if you are 17 or so and you measure up, how many parents would foot that bill in lieu of college?

2) How many people can come up with that kind of money on their own?

It seems like "finding the best of the best" and "finding 15 people ready to make the financial commitment" might not reconcile with one another so cleanly.
Brian McKnight, Kempo and Chin-Na student from Long Island.
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Postby Dvivid » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:09 am

Some students applying DO have the support of their parents. Some also have the financial support of their families.

http://www.ymaa.com/retreat-center

However, Dr. Yang realizes that many students just don't have the means to pay for the training. There are also the options of the 'Sponsored Student' or 'Security Fee Student':

Sponsored Student. The student is paired with an individual or organization that will sponsor his tuition of $1200 per month, for 9 months of the year. Read more below.

Security Fee Loan Student. Student accumulates a Security Fee Loan fund each year for collateral, to ensure their completion of the program. If he quits, he is required to pay for the training he has received. The loan is cancelled after successful graduation, and no money is owed. In addition, he is considered a "working student", and will be assigned additional tasks in and around the Center. Read more below.


http://www.ymaa.com/retreat-center
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