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pete5770 wrote:wpgtaiji wrote: Arguably, the majority of taiji today is of the silly Government styles desinged for teaching new people the BASICS, not the art of taiji. Bringing your feet together when stepping is a ridiculous and incorrect assertion to make on someone. Anyone who advocates it is NOT being honest, first, with themselves and second, with their students. God help the entire art...
We're talking about taking a step.
Have you gone off your meds?
wpgtaiji wrote:pete5770 wrote:wpgtaiji wrote: Arguably, the majority of taiji today is of the silly Government styles desinged for teaching new people the BASICS, not the art of taiji. Bringing your feet together when stepping is a ridiculous and incorrect assertion to make on someone. Anyone who advocates it is NOT being honest, first, with themselves and second, with their students. God help the entire art...
We're talking about taking a step.
Have you gone off your meds?
You brought up the assinine suggestion that people bring their feet together STEPPING forward. It seems this is what the MASSES in taiji do. pete, YOU asked about this silly issue. And it isnt taking a step! It is foundational to how that student will forever look at their art in the future. Look at yourself! You claim 40 years of taiji, yet a simple issue, you cant get your head around to see the insanity in it!
All this said, in bagua walking, YES, we brush the ankles together in the basic (non-fighting) walking. This is to teach the body to move in a very specific and necessary way to do some of the more difficult applications with power later on. Maybe, in their wanting to unify taiji, they some how got this mixed into the stepping. The problem is, doing it in a straight line does NOT bring the same results. Anything is possible.
Josh Young wrote:Who brings up the idea of bringing feet together when stepping?
wpgtaiji wrote:pete5770 wrote:wpgtaiji wrote: Arguably, the majority of taiji today is of the silly Government styles desinged for teaching new people the BASICS, not the art of taiji. Bringing your feet together when stepping is a ridiculous and incorrect assertion to make on someone. Anyone who advocates it is NOT being honest, first, with themselves and second, with their students. God help the entire art...
We're talking about taking a step.
Have you gone off your meds?
You brought up the assinine suggestion that people bring their feet together STEPPING forward. ..... pete, YOU asked about this silly issue. ... The problem is, doing it in a straight line does NOT bring the same results.
caesar wrote:Pete,
can you find a video where people could see exactly what you mean?
caesar wrote:Alright...is this btw the way it's taught in your school?
pete5770 wrote:caesar wrote:Pete,
can you find a video where people could see exactly what you mean?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBvF6r6D ... dded#t=59s
Brush knee push in particular
Brian wrote:pete5770 wrote:caesar wrote:Pete,
can you find a video where people could see exactly what you mean?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBvF6r6D ... dded#t=59s
Brush knee push in particular
The Beijing 24 Form...a form constructed by a committe..so full of bad techniques it should be banned! The stepping to the middle, the raising of the front foot when shifting the weight back, looking back at the hands while performing 'Repulse Monkey/Back stepping monkey', no proper use of the waist/kuas, placing the stepping-back foot toes first instead of sinking the heel, needle at sea bottom only half formed....it looks good...but not correct Taijiquan.
pete5770 wrote:caesar wrote:Alright...is this btw the way it's taught in your school?
No. For the last 6 or 8 years I haven't taught or "went to school". So I take it you got what
I was talking about?
Brian wrote:The Beijing 24 Form...a form constructed by a committe..so full of bad techniques it should be banned! The stepping to the middle, the raising of the front foot when shifting the weight back, looking back at the hands while performing 'Repulse Monkey/Back stepping monkey', no proper use of the waist/kuas, placing the stepping-back foot toes first instead of sinking the heel, needle at sea bottom only half formed....it looks good...but not correct Taijiquan.
caesar wrote:pete5770 wrote:caesar wrote:Alright...is this btw the way it's taught in your school?
No. For the last 6 or 8 years I haven't taught or "went to school". So I take it you got what
I was talking about?
Yeah I get it.
But good that you asked the whole matter anyway...is there no school nearby where you live or do you just prefer a tai chi hermit lifestyle?
caesar wrote:I don't think healthy things should be banned anyway...better that people are doing some kind of movement and caring for themselves.
Perhaps those short forms just shouldn't be called tai chi.
pete5770 wrote:No. For the last 6 or 8 years I haven't taught or "went to school". fer a tai chi hermit lifestyle?
I guess you could call me a hermit. I've been trying to find an instructor that I think can help me but the one I want to go to is a good hour away. My last instructor moved to the West coast and Gabriel Chin, who held court every Saturday up in Ann Arbor, died a few years back, so, yes, a hermit(of sorts).
Josh Young wrote:Can someone show how this is a flaw? I hear a lot of armchair philosophy about it, but in years of doing taiji and sparring nobody has taken advantage of said flaw, but I have used said flaw against others over and over.
There are good reasons for it, it isn't a mistake or a flaw, it is in all the oldest styles too.
Remember form is superficial.
Some so called mistakes are just not understood, like how some forms direct the eyes differently than others.
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