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Postby Dvivid » Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:11 am

Happy Easter everyone! In other words, Happy Spring.

Easter = Esther = Ishtar = Isis = Ostara = Spring Equinox

Megillat Esther, the Scroll of Esther. In Hebrew, the word Esther is related to the word nistar, meaning hidden, and the word megillah is related to the word megaleh, meaning to reveal. Thus the Megillah of Esther can be literally translated as the revelation of that which is hidden.

This book is, however, not historical, as "Esther" is a remake of the Goddess and Queen of Heaven Ishtar, Asherah, Astarte, Astoreth or Isis, from whom comes "Easter." Of Esther:

The biblical book of Esther is a secularized Elamite myth of Ishtar (Esther) and her consort Marduk (Mordecai), who sacrificed to the god Hammon, or Amon (Haman). Yahweh was never mentioned, because the Jews of Elam worshipped Marduk, not Yahweh. . . . Even the Bible story admits that Esther-Ishtar was not the real name of the Elamite-Jewish queen. Her real name was Hadassah (Esther 2:7).[2,p.144 citing 3,p.286]

The name "Easter" originated with the names of an ancient Goddess and God. The Venerable Bede, (672-735 CE.) a Christian scholar, first asserted in his book De Ratione Temporum that Easter was named after Eostre (a.k.a. Eastre). She was the Great Mother Goddess of the Saxon people in Northern Europe. Similarly, the "Teutonic dawn goddess of fertility [was] known variously as Ostare, Ostara, Ostern, Eostra, Eostre, Eostur, Eastra, Eastur, Austron and Ausos." 1 Her name was derived from the ancient word for spring: "eastre." Similar Goddesses were known by other names in ancient cultures around the Mediterranean, and were celebrated in the springtime. Some were:

Aphrodite from ancient Cyprus

Ashtoreth from ancient Israel

Astarté from ancient Greece

Demeter from Mycenae

Hathor from ancient Egypt

Ishtar from Assyria

Kali, from India

Ostara a Norse Goddess of fertility.

Cybele, the Phrygian fertility goddess, had a fictional consort who was believed to have been born via a virgin birth. He was Attis, who was believed to have died and been resurrected each year during the period MAR-22 to MAR-25. "About 200 B.C. mystery cults began to appear in Rome just as they had earlier in Greece. Most notable was the Cybele cult centered on Vatican hill ...Associated with the Cybele cult was that of her lover, Attis (the older Tammuz, Osiris, Dionysus, or Orpheus under a new name). He was a god of ever-reviving vegetation. Born of a virgin, he died and was reborn annually. The festival began as a day of blood on Black Friday and culminated after three days in a day of rejoicing over the resurrection."

Wherever Christian worship of Jesus and Pagan worship of Attis were active in the same geographical area in ancient times, Christians "used to celebrate the death and resurrection of Jesus on the same date; and pagans and Christians used to quarrel bitterly about which of their gods was the true prototype and which the imitation."

Many religious historians believe that the death and resurrection legends were first associated with Attis, many centuries before the birth of Jesus. They were simply grafted onto stories of Jesus' life in order to make Christian theology more acceptable to Pagans. Others suggest that many of the events in Jesus' life that were recorded in the gospels were lifted from the life of Krishna, the second person of the Hindu Trinity.

Ancient Christians had an alternative explanation; they claimed that Satan had created counterfeit deities in advance of the coming of Christ in order to confuse humanity.

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Postby darth_freak » Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:21 am

Very interesting. Though i think that in the Bible they do not refer to it as Easter but only as "passover".
I've heard that all the Christian celebrations were messed up in 307 or 325 (can't remember) by the concile of Nicé by the ruler of the Byzantine empire or something.

We've had an interesting post for X-Mas explaining some things already...

Now the question is to know whether, for Christians, celebrating a celebration at another date than what was supposed to be real has an impact on their salvation...
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Postby Dvivid » Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:21 pm

Chocolate bunny eggs for the lord.
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