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Vedic and Indian martial arts

Postby John the Monkey mind » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:18 pm

I thought it would be a good idea to create a thread on Indian and Vedic martial arts.

I was impressed by this guy Nihang Niddar Singh skill with distance, structure and footwork.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUeB-RlRX9o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLTcVJGMBkQ
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Re: Vedic and Indian martial arts

Postby Josh Young » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:55 pm

Awesome! Thank you!'

I started watching the first video and the first move he shows is a lot like Lu and resembles taijiquan to me. The soft touch, the use of fingertip contact, the use of meridans and cavities, elbow, diagonal stepping, spiraling, sinking, whole body movement, peng like energy, listening type energy

"eyes throat groin ankles knees"

Some distinctions and differences sure, but wow, I've yet to see anything close to taijiquan than this that isn't Chinese, except maybe Silat.
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Re: Vedic and Indian martial arts

Postby John the Monkey mind » Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:35 am

Josh Young wrote:Awesome! Thank you!'

I started watching the first video and the first move he shows is a lot like Lu and resembles taijiquan to me. The soft touch, the use of fingertip contact, the use of meridans and cavities, elbow, diagonal stepping, spiraling, sinking, whole body movement, peng like energy, listening type energy

"eyes throat groin ankles knees"

Some distinctions and differences sure, but wow, I've yet to see anything close to taijiquan than this that isn't Chinese, except maybe Silat.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV_WT80rZ-E

Look at 13:18 He talks about Shiva form one of the higher level arts. Even more like Tai Chi.
To me it seems more advanced than the more famous Southern Indian arts, but then the North of India was the epicenter for Vedic arts before the Islamic conquests and the Sikhs are the inheritors of that.
I also love how he works the knife into it.
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Re: Vedic and Indian martial arts

Postby caesar » Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:52 am

Wow! Cool stuff, thanks for sharing. It reminded me a lot of bujinkan also.
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Re: Vedic and Indian martial arts

Postby John the Monkey mind » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:24 pm

caesar wrote:It reminded me a lot of bujinkan also.

I agree. The way he works the knife into unarmed combat is very similar to Hatsumi.
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Postby yat_chum » Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:50 pm

Good find, it's nice to see a traditional art that looks genuine and not an art that has been made up from borrowing from the Chinese arts.
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Re: Vedic and Indian martial arts

Postby Josh Young » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:36 am

Hatsumei wrote about how the Ninpo material comes from India.

The mudras and mantras, the weapons, the spiritual practice aspects, the sanskrit scrolls etc.
Japanese martial arts a heavily influenced by Vedic martial arts, just like their religion.

It is said that in Japan the vedic stories, like the Mahabharata and the tale of Arjuna, are very well known.
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Re: Vedic and Indian martial arts

Postby brer_momonga » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:34 am

John the Monkey mind wrote:I thought it would be a good idea to create a thread on Indian and Vedic martial arts.

I was impressed by this guy Nihang Niddar Singh skill with distance, structure and footwork.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUeB-RlRX9o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLTcVJGMBkQ


nice! very cool stuff. thanks for posting.

Josh Young wrote:I started watching the first video and the first move he shows is a lot like Lu and resembles taijiquan to me. The soft touch, the use of fingertip contact, the use of meridans and cavities, elbow, diagonal stepping, spiraling, sinking, whole body movement, peng like energy, listening type energy


oh yeah. agree completely. I want to work on adding a layer of these applications to my tai chi chuan.
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Re: Vedic and Indian martial arts

Postby EdmundDante » Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:22 pm

Good thinking! Thank you bro!

I think it's a rear thing about the Indian martial arts infact I did not know about this.


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Re: Vedic and Indian martial arts

Postby John the Monkey mind » Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:21 am

I know it is not really Vedic or even Indian but the Martial Arts of Persia had the same root. Persian civilization was originaly very similar to Vedic culture in many ways including warfare. This is a review of a book published on the Martial Arts of Persia and although starting at the Islamic era it it looks much older.
Seems it has a nice section on mace fighting. :)

The book looks very well researched and an amazing resource.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfuLp-FtdJc
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Re: Vedic and Indian martial arts

Postby John the Monkey mind » Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:21 am

I know it is not really Vedic or even Indian but the Martial Arts of Persia had the same root. Persian civilization was originally very similar to Vedic culture in many ways including warfare. This is a review of a book published on the Martial Arts of Persia and although starting at the Islamic era it it looks much older.
Seems it has a nice section on mace fighting. :)

The book looks very well researched and an amazing resource.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfuLp-FtdJc
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Re: Vedic and Indian martial arts

Postby John the Monkey mind » Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:21 am

I know it is not really Vedic or even Indian but the Martial Arts of Persia had the same root. Persian civilization was originally very similar to Vedic culture in many ways including warfare. This is a review of a book published on the Martial Arts of Persia and although starting at the Islamic era it it looks much older.
Seems it has a nice section on mace fighting. :)

The book looks very well researched and an amazing resource.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfuLp-FtdJc
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Re: Vedic and Indian martial arts

Postby John the Monkey mind » Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:21 am

I know it is not really Vedic or even Indian but the Martial Arts of Persia had the same root. Persian civilization was originally very similar to Vedic culture in many ways including warfare. This is a review of a book published on the Martial Arts of Persia and although starting at the Islamic era it it looks much older.
Seems it has a nice section on mace fighting. :)

The book looks very well researched and an amazing resource.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfuLp-FtdJc
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Re: Vedic and Indian martial arts

Postby John the Monkey mind » Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:21 am

I know it is not really Vedic or even Indian but the Martial Arts of Persia had the same root. Persian civilization was originally very similar to Vedic culture in many ways including warfare. This is a review of a book published on the Martial Arts of Persia and although starting at the Islamic era it it looks to have a much older root to the arts.
Seems it has a nice section on mace fighting. :)

The book looks very well researched and an amazing resource.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfuLp-FtdJc

An example of the art in use.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4Om4-K7WaI
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Re: Vedic and Indian martial arts

Postby John the Monkey mind » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:34 am

Hindu Warrior: The Steel Mace Workout

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The gada, or heavy mace, was the weapon of choice of Hindu soldiers as well as the Hindu deity Hanuman, an anthropomorphic monkey who can lift mountains with a single hand. According to the book Encyclopedia of Indian Physical Culture, warriors during the Puranic age would engage in mace training early in the morning along with wrestling, archery, and swordsmanship. Besides dueling one another with gadas, warriors would swing heavier versions — usually made with a bamboo stick with a heavy stone at one end — behind their backs in order to strengthen their backs, chests, shoulders, forearms, and fingers. Because of their rigorous physical and tactical training, Hindu warriors were some of the fiercest of the ancient world.


Today, the gada is used primarily by Pehlwani wrestlers in northern India and southern Pakistan. The most famous gada afficionado was the Great Gama (pictured above), the only undefeated Pehlwani wrestler in history. By the looks of it, his mustache also trained with a gada. That thing is a beast!


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http://www.artofmanliness.com/2013/04/2 ... e-workout/
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Re: Vedic and Indian martial arts

Postby John the Monkey mind » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:47 am

A usful link to a PDF filled with traditional Indian conditioning exercises and games.
Encyclopedia of Indian Physical Culture

http://www.sandowplus.co.uk/India/Encyc ... ysCult.pdf
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